I am a dreamer - literally and figuratively speaking. I have had dreams that have shown me what was going to happen the following day and dreams of more distant future, some of which i have seen happening either exactly the same way or as though the dream had given me a hint that situation was going to happen... so far i am an amateur in this and i am still learning how I could "control" this if it were an ability and use it like my sixth sense... well, i am writing this since I just wanted to share an experience with others who are interested in such aspects.
Last night in my dream that was rather meaningless sequence of events, i saw three buckets of dark turbid water. and when i put my hand in one of them and stirred it, the turbidity settled down (so quite opposite to what happens in waking reality). and that very moment i realized, "i am in a dream state!". i told this to myself, while in the dream!!! at that very moment something weired happened. I felt a switch in my state of awareness - a kind of loss of body consciousness we have when we are into shav-aasana yoga. then i asked myself would i get answers to my questions in life now? in that altered state of mind, i was conscious that i am asleep on my bed and had been in a dream state moments ago, but then my hands felt lighter and started to go upwards like a balloon goes up in air and slowly my whole body also felt lighter. i could not stop that floating feeling since i felt as though earth lost its gravitational pull to help me come down. i felt i was in a kind of suspended state and i was beginning to float upwards. when i looked around (not physically but in this altered state of mind) i could see that i was rising above from not my bed but a certain pattern (that resembled the Sri Chakra). I was scared a little about what might happen next and imagined holding the hands of my spiritual guru in India. I could see Him clearly with me, holding my hands and then we both were rising upwards from the Chakra pattern on the "ground". for a few moments the presence of my spiritual guru gave me some courage to let myself experience whatever this was. but at one point my fear caught up with me and i desperately tried to wake up. i felt trapped in the state for a few minutes as i woke up with quite an effort. infact i wondered if i would ever wake up!!! is this how we feel when we become aware or conscious in our dream state or was i experiencing the initial steps of astral projection? not sure. i had read a lot about astral projection and lucid dreaming and tried to deliberately project my astral self a couple of times (in vain). whichever this experience was, astral or dream, i felt a mixture of fear and thrill at the same time. Just that fear got the better hand over time as it many times happens and i pulled myself out of this. with a little glad and with a little regret. but i know the journey has just begun to explore the unknown.
i would be very glad and grateful to get a feedback on this, if you (those who were interested enough to read this far) have the time for such out of the ordinary things in life. Those of you who are trying astral projection, do remember to protect yourself with divine white light shield. It is very important (this i learnt only later and now I am glad that my initial attempts went in vain).
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hey friend,
this is quite interesting and i hv experienced this altered state a few times in the past.. but i don have any knowledge on astral projection or anything of that sort...
share more... i am eager to read, well i have just started reading things...
btw, i came to this page when i read your comment on moola star(on ammupatti's blog)... i wanted to know what happened afterwards.. are you with your love now.. ? hope your in-laws doing good..
Regards,
Manu
Hi Manumyth,
Thanks to be the first one to comment on this blog. for sometime i wondered if anyone did find this blog interesting at all.
i think i have written in ammupatti's blog itself that things dint work out and only got more and more complex to make it happen. I had learnt what it is to let go - not out of frustration, anger or anything. but to let go with love. that is one of my life's biggest learning. so i dont have any in-laws. and i never wanted to have in-laws, in the first place. i am waiting for people who will also be family - parents, brother sister etc. and not parents-in-law, brother-in-law and so on. and i know that's the kind of life i have ahead...
Hello,
I am writing to you after reading your comments in ammupatti's blog and then your out of body experiences. (bear with me, I am not as proficient as you are in English).
Very similar things happened in my life as well. During my first day of meditation, as I was doing the Vippassana.. a powerful force (not physical, but extraordinarily powerful - which I came to know later as Kundalini Shakthi) started whirling around my body. I had only read a few spiritual books by then. As I started to observe the force, it began to rise up. As it was rising up, I was feeling that "I" am going up from some one else's body (It was a clear experience that my own body was perceived as some one else's). Within few moments, I was completely out of my body and was in Space. I MUST confess that THAT is the most blissful experience in my life - every cell of my body was experiencing bliss. I could not bear the bliss. Just like in your case, fear over took me. (I was told that, when one is in Space, that state is called "Thuriyadheetha" in Yoga.). Then, the force came down to enter my body (I was then feeling I am entering into some one else's body). I am almost sure this is exactly what happens in death but then the life force does not come back to the body. It would be really great if one goes through this type of death experience in his/her life, then our very approach to life as a whole would have a radical change. It is argued that, if the Soul with Karmic imprints or unfulfilled desires does not completely merge in Space, then it tries to find bodies to manifest those actions.
Now, I wanted to ask you about your following paragraph:
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All I can say from my learning is this: two people share lives only up to a point that it is meant to be. souls have agreed before birth about how they meet, treat and leave (or not leave) each other before hand. so no one is to blame. we are all here to learn our lessons. each soul has a life learning. and it is pre-decided with whom, for how long we share our lives and what we teach and learn. i learnt a lot about relationships, about giving, forgiving and about Love itself from this guy and i am thankful to him and his family for facilitating the progress of my soul.
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Well, how can you be so sure that every thing is predetermined? ( I am aware of the metaphysical arguements behind this, but yet, are you so sure about what you wrote? In my opinion, it would mean that we have completely decoded this Universe, which means there is no possibility of any change - Life does not appear to be so. I am some what convinced that the Natural Forces are predetermined - For instance, the laws of Gravitational Force, Electricity, Magnetism, or in your area, the characteristics determined by Genes etc seem to be determined. I know it all becomes immediately complicated if a Geneticist asks himself: What controls the Genes? One can say, Consciousness is the Underlying reality ... but you see, I just want to be "very careful" in saying or accepting such things ... More light from you would be enlightening... (While answering from Advaita Vedanta or such scriptures, all I request you (anyone) is to be very careful, unless it is an absolute conviction personally.
Compassionately,
Siva
Finally, I want to seriously comment on your another statement: "People who live in fear live in fear, never they will come out" - This is a profound statement. Let me carefully state the essence of what I found in my life so far. As I see it, Love is nothing else but Fear (I usually do not say this to lovers for they get often infuriated). One is simply in Fear all the time. Is there any activity that any human being does without Fear? All notions, all conceptions divisions such as Respect, Honor, Prestige, Caste system, good, bad, etc etc are all due to Fear. Suffering in any form is nothing else but the experience of Fear. Please take time to observe what I am saying and then disagree if you perceive what I am saying is rubbish. You can ask me, if I am free of Fear - Of course not. But, I am absolutely convinced that we will be disqualified to live on this planet, unless we become free from Fears. Let me stop here... Will wait for your response.
Compassionately,
Siva
Hmmm Hi, sorry that i did not reply immediately.
yes I still think that when two people meet and how long they stay together is pre-destined. at the same time i also agree that change is the only constant aspect about life. contradictory right?
let me explain. I think, that destiny is not marked out in a time scale here. that one would share one's life with so-and-so for this many years, months and days. but till the point in time that they teach each other the lessons they have come to teach each other through that relationship. for eg. if one soul need to learn to stand up for oneself, may be it will come on earth as a wife of an abusive husband (husband being the other soul that has graciously agreed to provide her the setting where she can learn how to stand up for herself). now on earth husband abuses her and she will continue to be abused till one day she decides, enough! I wont let anyone treat me this way. now lesson learnt and they might break up or continue to be together (provided the husband realizes he cant continue to behave that way and changes). this change can happen in 1 day, 1 month or after many years of abuse or might go on till death. when we do not learn it in an entire lifetime, we come again to finish that lesson with or without other lessons for a new lifetime. so do not take destiny literally or mathematically. it is not in numbers i meant that.
and regarding talking abt vedanta/scriptures, I am sure of whatever I have learnt so far in life (and only time will tell when i have not got it right or have not got the complete picture). so like an empty vessel or vessel that is half full, I just give myself the liberty to express myself in a blog. and there is nothing more to it. I am not claiming what I wrote as an ultimate truth.
coming to the other question you had asked. Love is not fear. definitely not. in the contrary, the absence of love is the basis of all kinds of fear. This is just my opinion and since u asked, I said what I think. You have every right to think that love and fear are one and the same. everyone of us is in our own (soul) journey and we are right in all our beliefs from where each of us are standing at any point in time. there is nothing right or wrong in anything...
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